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Who has seen a wolf? I saw one last year while grouse hunting in northeastern Wisconsin.

I had attached the link to this article with this photo but now opted to remove it due to the personal comments in contained. I am thinking this has got to be a fake. You can find the article if you google (record wolf edmonton)
What do you think?

It took our forefathers a hundred years to eradicate those things, and only ten for these idiots to bring em back,,,,,,,,

If we put a bounty on them and only allowed rifle hunting, we could probably just control the numbers. There is no way to predict what losses we'll see before people come to their senses.

Ask Montana Residents feel about their first wolf hunt. They sold 13,000 liscences but allowed a harvest of less than 7% of the wolf population.

3 key Elk areas that were open to public land hunts by any hunter in the country are basically now devoid of elk. The wolves that were killed will basically be replaced by new litters and those same litters will add a 18% growth to the overall wolf population in Montana. The predation of elk/both deer species and live stock are having negative outcomes but not to worry the tree huggers in California and Seattle are happy as clams because wolves are taking their rightful place in the food chain and culling off excess animals from the herd.

Here's hoping Wyoming/Idaho get it right.

There is a very good article in Predator Xtreme about this very topic.

Ben

Most deer hunters in northern Wisconsin, myself included, are not happy about the large and growing wolf population. Last November I didn't see a deer until the last day of a nine day deer rifle hunting season Most hunters had similar experiences. I know it is not just the wolves, the bear population has boomed as well. I think that deer that were weak after a hard winter in years past pulled through where as now they are not going to survive due to predation. Also, fawns are easy prey. The insurance companies are happier with less deer car collisions. This past deer rifle season a friend of mine saw more wolves from his deer stand than deer

I read this a couple of days ago,,,,,,,,,

Date: February 26, 2010
Contact: Ed Mitchell
(208) 334-3700
Idaho fish and game completes lolo zone elk survey


Recently completed aerial surveys show a marked decline in elk numbers in game management units 10 and 12, which comprise the Lolo Elk Management Zone.

Survey results indicate the elk population in the Lolo Zone has declined from 5,110 to 2,178, a 57-percent reduction since 2006. The greatest declines were observed in numbers of elk cows, calves and spike bulls. Overall, bull numbers were down zone-wide, with a shift in bulls to older animals.

"This survey, combined with ongoing research showing wolves are the primary cause of elk mortality today, is further scientific evidence of the impact wolves are having," Fish and Game Director Cal Groen said. "The rate of this decline in just four short years should help people understand there is an urgency to manage for a balance in this area."

Appropriate management options in response to this latest survey data are being explored.

Wolf predation is the major source of mortality on this elk herd and is affecting population size because too few calves are surviving to replace the adults that die each year. Predation is preventing recovery from a decline that began in the late 1980s and a steep decline following the severe winter of 1996-97.

This survey information corroborates ongoing research being conducted in the Lolo Zone that shows survival of radio-collared adult elk and six-month-old calves has been poor. Modeling efforts based on research survival data estimate declines of 11 to 15 percent annually.

Idaho Fish and Game's aerial surveys of most elk zones are conducted on a three- to five-year rotation. Surveys provide estimates of the size of the population as well as demographic data, such as numbers of elk cows, calves and bulls."

The above is a summary of the latest surveys. The reduction in elk was preceded by a reduction in moose and will be followed by a reduction in deer. That means the lions will be reduced and that increases the vulnerability all dogs on the Forest- especially cougar dogs. Wolves are hungry. The elk heards in our area have been reduced by 80% since the introduction of wolves.

Seems pretty simple. Want wolves? Say goodby to calves and fawns and to the elk and deer we hunt.

All the hunters in America should get together and finance a film documentary showing how the wolf eats. Stalking and chasing deer and elk that are weak from lack of food etc. and feeding on fawns and yearlings. Then we need to pay to have it shown on air in prime time numerous times.
When the wolf lovers see what they have been promoting (horible death etc.) through the bring back the wolf campaigns, maybe they will start to come to their senses. The second article listed below is from "1907" One hundred and three years ago.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl= ... CQQqwQwBw#

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-fr ... 946697D6CF

This is just one example of where the rise in predator numbers is affecting many species down the food chain (species that hunters would prefer robust populations of). Here in CT, the coyote population is having an obvious impact on Whitetail numbers. And most recently, the reintroduction of the Fisher is impacting the turkey population and that of other smaller game.

I'm cynical enough to see this as a back-door way of government eliminating interest in hunting to the point of eliminating it. The grouse population has long since been snuffed out, but predation may have only been a contributing, but not primary, factor.

Coyotes are thriving here in Wisconsin. Years ago only seen in the far northern part of the state, now they are everywhere including the heart of the city.

exactly true up here , seem to see them every week , and here them a night ,

they need open season !